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Orkia
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What is the PHRF rating for a 26S. I have raced for a couple of years in a non-spinnaker class at 222. I have done respectable. I read recently the 222 rating would be for a 26S with a spinnaker. I then found a non-spinnaker 26S rating at 242. Any thoughts on this?
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222 seems to be the standard PHRF for the 26S from what I have seen, though I find no notes as to whether that is spin or non-spin. 248 seems a little high to me, even for non-spin, but if you can get that, then go for it. In my case, my sailing club assigned my boat a 228, sailing with a genoa, non-spinnaker.

I happen to be in the midst of learning about how foresail percentages affect PHRF ratings. I found an interesting calculator at https://sailingfortuitous.com/jib-calc/ that takes your foresail dimensions and distance from forestay to mast (J) and automatically determines your luff perpendicular (LP), which is then calculated as a fraction (LP/J) to give you the overlap percentage. How that plays into PHRF, I do not know.

Results are interesting...

My "stock" jib calculates to 96.21%
My genoa calculates to 141.78%
BWY's "Big Jib", which is actually 20% larger than the stock jib, actually has a lower percentage number at 94.77. Bigger sail, smaller %. Weird.

I will ask my race captain what he would rate the 26S at with a genoa and a spinnaker and see what he says.
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The race captain responded as follows:

"Your friend’s boat would be a PHRF of 216 for a 150 jib and 213 for a 100 jib. That assumes a symmetrical spinnaker that isn’t oversized for the boat."

Your club's results differ.
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Thank you for the info. The PHRF still seems to be a mystery. I wish I understood it. Does anyone have a source that does a good job explaining.
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Re: PHRF

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Anyone know the PHRF for a :mac19: ?
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Orkia wrote: Wed Sep 21, 2022 6:38 pm Thank you for the info. The PHRF still seems to be a mystery. I wish I understood it. Does anyone have a source that does a good job explaining.
Wikipedia article:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Performan ... cing_Fleet

Lots of information on the internet. It's complicated, but not totally inscrutable.
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Deeseas wrote: Fri Sep 23, 2022 9:08 am Anyone know the PHRF for a :mac19: ?
Can't find anything definitive. Just don't ask the folks at the Sailing Anarchy forum unless you like being ridiculed.
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